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Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Any Good For DAWLESS? Revisited
This video explores whether the @behringer JT-4000 Micro can cut it as a multi-voice DAWLESS synth in 2024. To help us answer this question we look to teaming it with an iPad Mini running MiRack. The beauty of this setup is totally battery powered and includes the ability to add effects to the JT-4000 output. Not only this, but it can all easily fit in a bag, for music making on the go!
Here's some useful links if you are looking to replicate this experiment:
Original JT-4000 - Any Good for DAWLESS? : ua-cam.com/video/V-qwbGMQD1w/v-deo.html
MiRack: mirack.app
Tascam Audio Recorder: amzn.to/45jNiT9 (affiliate link)
USB-C Hub: amzn.to/4bXBcSb (affiliate link)
Behringer Store: amzn.to/3vVgFO9 (affiliate link)
At less than £50, this little beauty can do lush pads and 90's retro trance sounds 'til the cows come home. But can it work without a DAW? Is it a bargain synth destined for your DAWLESS setup, or just a toy???
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MicroVerb 4 Setup
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Follow along as I setup my latest Alesis MicroVerb 4 purchase with Abelton Live 12 and Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 / Motu 8Pre audio interfaces. As a budget friendly acquisition I'm running through the setup in my home studio to help others with small setups (and budgets) get the most out of their gear. In 2024 I feel the MicroVerb could play an important part in many home studios as the usefulnes...
Expand Focusrite Scarlett 18i20 with Motu 8Pre Firewire Interface
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Want to add 8 more inputs to your Focusrite Scralett 18i20? Have more dash than cash? Well, this video looks at the possibly the cheapest way of adding extra inputs at very low cost. This is a beginner friendly solution and suitable for anyone wishing to do multi-track home recordings. Here are some useful resources to assist you, if you wish to replicate this setup - all links are affiliate li...
Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Dawless Experiment | Generative Ambient
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This video explores the dawless possibilies of @behringer JT-4000 Micro connected up to a Raspberry Pi running a generative PD patch. Watch as I got through the process of setting up the Raspberry Pi with JT-4000 and Pure Data. This is beginner friendly and suitable for anyone wishing to do some low cost generative music experiments. Here are some useful resources to assist you, if you wish to ...
Arcade - Jet Set Adventure [MUSIC VIDEO]
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In the year 2157, humanity’s insatiable curiosity led them beyond the confines of Earth. The discovery of a mysterious signal emanating from the distant Andromeda galaxy ignited a frenzy of scientific and political activity. The signal was unmistakably artificial-a beacon, perhaps, or a desperate cry for help. Dr. Simon Bald, a brilliant astrophysicist, spearheaded the mission to decode the eni...
Cracking Open The Behringer JT-4000 Micro
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This video explores the inside of the @behringer JT-4000 Micro having a look at the PCB and the various chips it has inside the case. Filmed using the Canon R50 Camera: amzn.to/49LBARS (affiliate link) Behringer Store: amzn.to/3vVgFO9 (affiliate link) Copies of the photos can be found here: www.3dims.co.uk/blogs/threedimensions/behringer-jt-4000-micro-pcb-close-up-photographs At less than £50, ...
Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Any Good For DAWLESS?
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This video explores whether the @behringer JT-4000 Micro can cut it as a multi-voice DAWLESS synth in 2024. Setting Up A Headless Raspberry Pi: ua-cam.com/video/V-qwbGMQD1w/v-deo.html Original Guide From @mr_floydst: ua-cam.com/video/N4yUduOqR3M/v-deo.html&t Behringer Store: amzn.to/3vVgFO9 (affiliate link) At less than £50, this little beauty can do lush pads and 90's retro trance sounds 'til ...
Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Any Good For Techno?
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This video explores whether the @behringer JT-4000 Micro can cut it as a multi-voice techno synth in 2024. Behringer Store: amzn.to/3vVgFO9 (affiliate link) At less than £50, this little beauty can do lush pads and 90's retro trance sounds 'til the cows come home. But can it Techno? Is it a Techno Monster???
Solina String Ensemble - Any Good For Techno?
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This video explores the possibility that the @behringer Solina String Ensemble may have a dual life as a multi-voice techno synth. Solina String Ensemble: amzn.to/3PLRgNx (affiliate link) At less than £250, this little beauty can do lush pads and multi-voice 'til the cows come home. But can it Techno?
How To Save Presets - Behringher Pro-800 Poly Synth
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This video shows you have to save presets on the @behringer Pro-800 analogue poly synth. It's not that obvious from reading the manual, so this quick how-to guide should get you going in no time. My Unboxing - ua-cam.com/video/5ylzUBbYawk/v-deo.html Review & Manual - ua-cam.com/video/qLR8yiGibDM/v-deo.html More Behringer Gear - amzn.to/3vk5EG5 (affiliate link)
Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Back To The Future Synthwave Theme
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Having just taken ownership of the @behringer JT-4000 Micro I thought I'd put it thorugh it's paces and use the presets to create a synthwave version of this 80's classic theme. Back to the Future is one of my all time favourite films as it blends sci-fi, music and an awesome story into an action packed adventure. The video shows the various presets being played to create this version. BTW, the...
Behringer Pro-800 Analogue Poly Synth Unboxing - No Talking
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Purchased from Andertons, this Behringer Pro-800 Analogue Poly Synth arrived yesterday, so I'm unboxing and will start playing with it soon. Saving Presets - ua-cam.com/video/OqwEdh69ZMo/v-deo.html
Behringer JT-4000 Micro Synth Unboxing - No Talking
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Purchased from Andertons, this Behringer JT-4000 Micro synth arrived yesterday so I'm unboxing and will start playing with it soon.
Rarities and Oddities - Sonar Festival 2004 CD Label Sampler
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Rarities and Oddities - Sonar Festival 2004 CD Label Sampler
Electronic Music Re Release 2024 | 2003 Retro IDM
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Electronic Music Re Release 2024 | 2003 Retro IDM
Circuit Tracks 2024 | 6+ Synths Setup
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Circuit Tracks 2024 | 6 Synths Setup
Electronic Music Re Release 2024 | Retro IDM From 2003
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Electronic Music Re Release 2024 | Retro IDM From 2003
Novation Circuit Tracks & iPad Pro Mobile Music Setup / Rig
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Novation Circuit Tracks & iPad Pro Mobile Music Setup / Rig
Tascam DR-05X Audio Interface for Mobile Electronic Music
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Tascam DR-05X Audio Interface for Mobile Electronic Music
Three Samples Twisted in a Novation Circuit Tracks Jam
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Three Samples Twisted in a Novation Circuit Tracks Jam
Circuit Tracks Nymphes Midi Template - For Dawless Performance
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Circuit Tracks Nymphes Midi Template - For Dawless Performance
How-To Sync Euclidean Circles v2 with Novation Circuit Tracks
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How-To Sync Euclidean Circles v2 with Novation Circuit Tracks
Compact Live Electronic Music Setup | Dawless Live / Studio Rig
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Compact Live Electronic Music Setup | Dawless Live / Studio Rig
'Colonoise' - Dreadbox Nymphes & Novation Circuit Tracks Jam
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'Colonoise' - Dreadbox Nymphes & Novation Circuit Tracks Jam
Terraform | Sci-Fi Soundscape | Dark Electronic Music
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Terraform | Sci-Fi Soundscape | Dark Electronic Music
'Dreamed In Daze' Ambient Experimental Electronic Music - Tiny Modular
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'Dreamed In Daze' Ambient Experimental Electronic Music - Tiny Modular
'Artifical Intelligence' Ambient Sci Fi Soundscape Exploratory Modular Jam in 72HP
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'Artifical Intelligence' Ambient Sci Fi Soundscape Exploratory Modular Jam in 72HP
'Moon Landing' Improvised Science Fiction Soundscape - Relaxing Ambient
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'Moon Landing' Improvised Science Fiction Soundscape - Relaxing Ambient
Tiny Ambient Eurorack System in 36HP
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Tiny Ambient Eurorack System in 36HP
Tiny Modular - Jammed Ambience in 36HP
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Tiny Modular - Jammed Ambience in 36HP

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  • @Bigfamilyhomestead
    @Bigfamilyhomestead День тому

    That's a lot of work for a $50 synth...

    • @3dims
      @3dims День тому

      Agreed, but even with the work / additional purchases IMO it still is an affordable and compact option, with future expansion to boot. Not for everyone, but it will be for some.

  • @ThEN003tr0ll
    @ThEN003tr0ll 8 днів тому

    Is there anyway to set up to play the microverb effects in a live recording ?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 8 днів тому

      Yes, you could either insert into the channel you want delay / reverb or set up send and return so multiple channels can have FX applied. Does that help?

    • @ThEN003tr0ll
      @ThEN003tr0ll 5 днів тому

      @@3dims so I’ve set it up with my interface 5/6 input and output looping from my interface to the microverb I’ve tried setting up the I/o plug in but having difficulties and not getting a signal through the microverb Trying everything and can’t set it up, unsure what’s up

    • @3dims
      @3dims 5 днів тому

      @@ThEN003tr0ll if I were you i'd check each of the elements of the chain to see pin point what the issue issue is. For instance, is audio making it out of channels 5/6? Does audio come into 5/6 (without the Microverb in the loop)? Does the Microverb on it's own??? Do you have another effect (maybe a guitar pedal) you know works which you could use to prove the effects loop is working OK? Good luck getting this going - let us know how you get on.

  • @tesko_1
    @tesko_1 9 днів тому

    I was just about to order a new audio interface when it occurred to me my DR-05X could maybe do this, you just confirmed it! I probably owe you drink or something, thanks

    • @3dims
      @3dims 9 днів тому

      That’s cool. I went through the same thought process. As an out and about interface this little fella is hard to beat for the money.

  • @realmchat6665
    @realmchat6665 12 днів тому

    Nice video, been wanting to see what's in there making all those awesome sounds.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 12 днів тому

      Thanks. Glad you approve!

  • @koncreteto2758
    @koncreteto2758 13 днів тому

    100% agree, I've been working on a track for a few days and decided to leave it for the weekend and resume on Monday

    • @3dims
      @3dims 13 днів тому

      Sounds like a smart plan. I think it’s smart to build up the creative reserves for when you are riding the wave.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 19 днів тому

    The Behringer JT-4000, now with a free degree in ICT/programming, which you'll definitely need in order to use the MIDI in in a DAWless setting!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 19 днів тому

      😂

  • @patrickm.4469
    @patrickm.4469 20 днів тому

    Aconnect is a life saver, thank you for sharing! I got my JT-4000 talking to my MIDI keyboard and my DAW! Even incorporated my Volca Beats from my DAW through my raspberry pi and MIDI drum pads!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 20 днів тому

      Nice one Patrick! So chuffed it’s been a help.

  • @alexwestconsulting
    @alexwestconsulting 21 день тому

    I don't mean to defend the JT too much, especially since I have 3 JP-8080's and, as a miRack user myself, I know the ios apps are cheaper and more powerful (miRack has all the Mutable Instruments machines inside), but the JT does not need a daw per se, as there are plenty of external controller options to open it up. Also, while ipad mini 6 isn't an ipad pro, you are undervaluing its processing power, especially if you get a couple and bridge them with something like an iConnectivity device, which gets you just way more processing power than a multitude of hardware synths proper, only downside being that they aren't exactly immune to digital static when overburdened, it's just that it's up to the end user to not push it too far. Ipad mini 6 is a significant, generational improvement over ipad mini 5 in all respects where so many of the audio problems inherent in using ipad mini 5 are virtually gone in the 6. Thx for the video, good work. Subbed.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 20 днів тому

      Hey Alex, there are a lot of people on the offensive when it comes to the JT-4000 and I agree with what you are saying. The iPad Mini probably is more powerful than I give it credit for, but I do tend to err on the side of caution.

  • @brandonSpivey-vx4eu
    @brandonSpivey-vx4eu 21 день тому

    Thanks a lot

    • @3dims
      @3dims 21 день тому

      You’re welcome

  • @Raku777
    @Raku777 22 дні тому

    Thanks for sharing. I am impressed with your set up and your ability to get the JT 4000 hooked not only on Pure Data but also through the Raspberry Pi and even a Eurorack! The music is very good too.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 22 дні тому

      Thanks my friend. Appreciate you stopping by and leaving a comment. Have a good one!

  • @patrickm.4469
    @patrickm.4469 23 дні тому

    I loved your previous video using alsamixer on a raspberry pi as I have several of those lying around. Thank you for sharing! Thankfully Behringer has announced they are releasing a new version of the JT4000 including 3.5mm MIDI trs port.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 23 дні тому

      Hey Patrick, thanks for stopping by and so happy you are into the RPi video. I tried to run MiRack on the Pi, but there’s no midi modules so I had to resort to iPad.

  • @SpeccyMan
    @SpeccyMan 28 днів тому

    That display is NOT LCD. It is an OLED! The firmware will be in the microcontroller. The EEPROM will almost certainly be patch memory. Never assume anything.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 28 днів тому

      Of course it’s an OLED! Thanks for the spot.

  • @koncreteto2758
    @koncreteto2758 Місяць тому

    Early 2010s ? I was sure I got one around 97 lol

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      I stand corrected! I’m relatively new to the MicroVerb 4, so happy to be wrong on this front.

  • @davlippo7
    @davlippo7 Місяць тому

    Looks like the only way to save from bank to a different bank is the copy and paste function noted below.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks. I’m still getting my head around the synth, so this is very handy to know.

  • @evertmeurs
    @evertmeurs Місяць тому

    When I use a raspberry pi 2 I hear interference sound. Anybody knows how to solve that?

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      I would suggest having a look at the RPi 2 power supply. I find that different USB plugs are better at isolating electrical interference than others. What are you using?

    • @evertmeurs
      @evertmeurs Місяць тому

      @@3dims I use a Samsung Phone power supply.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      @@evertmeurs can you try another power supply? Maybe a USB power bank if you have one? That could help you isolate what's generating the noise.

    • @evertmeurs
      @evertmeurs Місяць тому

      @@3dims I now have a different problem. When I turn on my raspberry pi and my jt4000 is also connected, my jt4000 starting to play random sounds. When I try to play on my midi keyboard no midi connection and the jt4000 keeps making random sounds. Is my raspberry pi broken or something?

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      That’s a bit odd. My suggestion would be to try a fresh install of the OS. Could be a spot of corruption on the SD card which is creating some weird effects. Let us know how you get on…

  • @ShilohJanowick
    @ShilohJanowick Місяць тому

    loving this connection of software and hardware to build an environment tailored to your musical language! great video.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. The Raspberry Pis are wonderful little (affordable) devices which have so much scope - I’m still just scratching the surface, but hope to go deeper.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz Місяць тому

    So the processor is an STM32L4. The EEPROM Chip, i can't see it, but is it a 24c series? I say user setting data. The reason is that STM32 contains program storage flash, and will indeed not execute software from external memory, and it's generally got a whole oodle of it, depending on which variety it is. But the flash in there isn't made to be constantly rewritten, it can fail, and you can't just change a byte, you need to clear a page every time you change something, and you need a ton of measures to manage and stave off failure. So a common design trait is to use a non-page EEPROM, an i2c-connected 24c series, to store the settings, and that's good for approximately a lifetime of bytewise writes, and if it goes bad, you can still swap it out, you can even swap it with Fujitsu FRAM which is basically immortal. These EEPROM are slow for bulk loading, they're best used to load and store individual bytes or small byte sequences. In contrast if you want to store and load bulk data, you use a 25c or 25q series SPI flash chips. The TI AIWI chip is actually TPA6132A2 stereo headphone amplifier. A popular alternative that is used by just about everyone else is MAX97220, feistier, usually comes out cheaper (except during pandemic), that one is usually marked AIG or AIF, good to remember for the next teardown, you're going to find them. I know, maddening, you just have to have an idea who made the chip (easy with this TI, not so easy with most chips) and then use the manufacturer's topcode/topmark search, except the websites are broken a lot of the time, and then verify from the datasheet, it generally has this data as well, except when it doesn't. I happen to have memorised some of these. The 4580 is a classic opamp that one might use in a filter. Won't make a call whether that's it without probing the circuit. Honestly if i was Behringer i would just cheat and not have an analogue filter at all, just do it digital on the L4, nobody takes the product claims literally anyway right? The display is an OLED. These small blue ones are basically the cheapest text/matrix display that you can get today, they cost like half a dollar i think, cheaper than an LCD.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Місяць тому

      The suggestion that the Holtek HT16... chip is an LCD driver... well yeah there is a 1621 but that would be weird, given it's the wrong kind of driver, it's a segment LCD driver, not a text/graphics one. I'd like to suggest that this is instead the HT16K33, a keypad scanner and LED driver with i2c. This way they can use a cheaper low pin count microcontroller (processor) IC, and then multiplex the i2c EEPROM, the i2c SSD1306 display, and all the LEDs (those in the push button switches) and the switches themselves plus possibly a rotary push encoder all on a single i2c bus.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for your input, it’s really fascinating to see what others know and can unpick from just a video. My knowledge is limited but is growing through useful contributions like this one. Thanks again.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for the correction. Every day is a school day. Cheers!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Місяць тому

      @@3dims I come from friends of Woody's Piano Shack, i'm their resident electrical engineer basically. They were looking at your vid. Found those guys when i ran into Floyd Steinberg's somewhat painful attempt to repair an Alesis Micron a few years ago. We ended up fixing it successfully.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      @@SianaGearz that's so cool and really happy to have you most excellent input.

  • @eancurtis9333
    @eancurtis9333 Місяць тому

    Sounds awesome

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks pal. Appreciate the comment.

  • @jonmaddison
    @jonmaddison Місяць тому

    Out of the box MIDI routing in the Raspberry Pi?! Who knew! Awesome, thanks for the walkthrough. I wonder if it works on a Pi Zero as I have a few of them laying around (plus they are cheaper, albeit need an external USB hub to connect the devices into it)

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      No worries. I’ve been experimenting with the Pi to use more of its power, so expect to see this original idea expanded upon.

    • @patrickm.4469
      @patrickm.4469 Місяць тому

      Pi Zero should work fine, its such a tiny amount of computation to route the MIDI data compared to what the Pi Zero is capable of. You are correct about the powered hub I'm sure too

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for stopping by and letting us know your thoughts.

  • @jacobrosen
    @jacobrosen Місяць тому

    That mcu is most provably an stm32g431KB or maybe K8, and seing as those has either 64k or 128k flash build in i assume the external eeprom is used for parameter storage or something. But it is a bit weird that they use an external eeprom imstead of using an mcu with bigger flash and store it internally

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for sharing. It’s a bit difficult to know for sure, but I think you probably are right.

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Місяць тому

    Behringer f'ed up bigtime with no MIDI in. What a nightmare to make it work.

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks for your thoughts. I suspect Behringer had their reasons. It’s certainly proven to be a talking point.

  • @fiachrahackett
    @fiachrahackett Місяць тому

    This is really cool, I would love to see someone (who has the knowledge and skills) to circuit bend and mod this a bit. a pitch shift would be extra fun but proper midi support would be great too. The additions of the firmware updates have been excellent so perhaps there is still hope for further firmware support and updates, a way to un latching the parameter knobs to 1/4 turns would be ideal. I'm really enjoying mine as my entry point to hardware synths (vintage casio keyboards not withstanding) . I've paired it with a sonicake sonic ambience reverb+delay pedal to get some really dreamy sounds. Looking forward to more of your videos on this topic :)

    • @3dims
      @3dims Місяць тому

      Thanks, and totally agree some circuit bending would be ace. The tiny surface mounted soldering means that’s beyond my basic skills in this department, but perhaps someone will take up the challenge. As a bargain intro to hardware synths I think you’ve chosen well, I’m still discovering more about the JT-4000 Micro, so will share what I can when new, cool things occur to me.

    • @fiachrahackett
      @fiachrahackett Місяць тому

      @@3dims absolutely I don't really even know what's possible, but I've seen people modify all sorts of devices, but I haven't got a clue myself. haha

  • @krzysztofzimmermann9037
    @krzysztofzimmermann9037 2 місяці тому

    That's cool! I think that jt-4000 micro can be really great if you already have other gear that you can easily put it in chain with.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks pal. Yeah, its certainly not a standalone device. The keyboard isn’t what I’d call playable - but useful to check the thing works!

  • @thepcgamer2169
    @thepcgamer2169 2 місяці тому

    I used a Akai MPC One + for this work around .😀

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, I’ve heard this was a thing. Apparently some other grooveboxes work in a similar way. Thanks for stopping by.

    • @thepcgamer2169
      @thepcgamer2169 2 місяці тому

      @@3dims Also did it with the Pro VS Mini too lol but yeah it works great

  • @hansmuller1980
    @hansmuller1980 2 місяці тому

    acid 😂

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for stopping by

  • @fritsvanzanten3573
    @fritsvanzanten3573 2 місяці тому

    Interesting. I hardly have a clue about these things, but I'm interested. So what does SSH mean?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      SSH is a way of remotely sending commands to the Raspberry Pi without having a screen and keyboard plugged into the Pi. Sounds more complex than it is.

    • @fritsvanzanten3573
      @fritsvanzanten3573 2 місяці тому

      @@3dims Thank you!

  • @3dims
    @3dims 2 місяці тому

    Thanks!

  • @koncreteto2758
    @koncreteto2758 2 місяці тому

    Nice 😊

  • @Wulfhard1965
    @Wulfhard1965 2 місяці тому

    Now at which spot to solder an audio input for the analog filter?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Beats me!

  • @infindebula
    @infindebula 2 місяці тому

    While one or both of the ICs you mentioned as candidates are likely part of the filter, there should be absolutely no reason for it to be anywhere near the cutoff and resonance controls. Those controls should be connected to the processor, so the only thing the filter needs to be close to is the DAC - for controlling filter with voltages, and also to generate audio to be filtered.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for the info. Really helpful insight. Cheers!

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Місяць тому

      Why? If it's a classic analogue filter, then the pots specifically wouldn't be connected to the processor at all, the signal or opamp feedback just runs directly through the pots. Trying to make the filter processor controlled introduces a bunch of complexity not really desired in a toy-like synth, since you basically end up needing at least a shitty analogue multiplier plus more effective DAC channels, you can of course use the microcontroller outputs but end up needing to condition that signal, and you're quite space constrained in a device like that. At that point i'd be tempted to just completely get rid of the analogue filter and just implement a digital one, there is a DSP and FPU in the microcontroller.

    • @infindebula
      @infindebula Місяць тому

      @@SianaGearz are the filter settings programmable, and/or modulatable by the processor-controlled envelopes, LFO, or key tracking?

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz Місяць тому

      @@infindebula Good call. There IS a connection to the microcontroller that i missed, the filter knobs are also used to adjust settings. They also appear to be single track potentiometers. The cutoff and resonance are indeed completely automated, they have MIDI direct control, and LFO and envelope generator drive the cutoff frequency. So you're completely correct in your original assessment.

    • @infindebula
      @infindebula Місяць тому

      @@SianaGearz I’ll even go a step further… people bitch and moan when they see modern clones of analog monosynths - they say “why didn’t you make it programmable?” or “why didn’t you make the knobs respond to MIDI?” There is an inherent disadvantage to doing that, which we’ve just touched on. It makes every panel control subject to the resolution and latency introduced by the digital circuitry. Then some would counter “well you won’t hear stepping with 16-bit values” which is theoretically true, but the inherent noise in the whole system generally negates resolutions better than about 10 bits. Unless of course you attempt to dIgitally de-noise, which adds latency. For me, there is an unquantifiable connection between the player and synth when the analog controls (and keyboard) are actually in-circuit. Digital controls open up a whole new level of versatility at the cost of … well as I said it’s unquantifiable, but there is something there!

  • @majobecher7835
    @majobecher7835 2 місяці тому

    AIWI=TPA6132A2=HPamp, DAC most likely inside STM32 as cheep as it gets..., RC4580=OpAmp=Filter?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Superb. Thanks for chipping in.

  • @straighttalk2069
    @straighttalk2069 2 місяці тому

    The single filter is the reason I'm selling mine and my Pro VS mini. I would've paid the extra had they included the three extra filters required for true polyphony which these are not. Instead we're left with a weird sort of paraphony.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      The single filter doesn't bother me TBH. Also, I'm not sure where Behringer would fit another 2 analogue filters into this miniscule box.

    • @straighttalk2069
      @straighttalk2069 2 місяці тому

      @@3dims Apart from the JT-4000 and Pro VS mini, which are without a doubt toys, all of my hardware synths are fully polyphonic. My only paraphonic synth is my Waldorf Pulse 2 and even that clearly states that it's a Monophonic synth. Behringer could easily have made the JT-4000 large enough for four analog filters. Look at the Pro 800 eight voice synth with eight analog filters for £300 and not a large synth. That works out to £37.50 per analog voice and analog filter so £150 for a completly analog and fully polyphonic version of the JT-4000. I would've bought a Pro 800 if I didn't already own a DSI tetra and a Rev2 16 voice.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      @@straighttalk2069I have a Pro 800 and it’s a class synth, but totally different form factor to the JT-4000.

    • @koncreteto2758
      @koncreteto2758 2 місяці тому

      Quit moaning and let us enjoy them 😂 ​@@straighttalk2069

    • @Wulfhard1965
      @Wulfhard1965 2 місяці тому

      @@straighttalk2069 The Korg Poly-800 also had only one filter, and it became a top seller not only for his price point. No one would call that a "toy", just because it was only paraphonic.

  • @koncreteto2758
    @koncreteto2758 2 місяці тому

    Scary how close the screen ribbon is to the pot wonder if it would pose a risk to being worn down by friction over time

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Good spot… I’ve just opened up the JT-4000 and tucked the ribbon cable away from the moving pot. I suspect the ribbon cable got free-d up with me messing…

  • @texacomann
    @texacomann 2 місяці тому

    I got 3x of it to play with both hands or make it stereo, because its mono.... ❤But not anymore❤❤❤

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Cool plan. I’m guessing you’d have them on the same midi channel and either make a massive sound or pan left / right.

    • @texacomann
      @texacomann 2 місяці тому

      @@3dims the jp4000s gives me a simular synth like a multitimbral Synthesizer. I have 3 Single outputs, and 4 Voices each. Most time I use 1 for left hand and 1 or 2 for my right Hand. I case of 2 I Pan hard right and left or sometimes I am just stacking the sounds without planning. The Jp4000 has a very good sound, from poor little whispering to fat supersaw, everything is possible. All in all, the sum of the bill for 3x synths was less than 150 bucks 🤣🤣🤣that's worth the fun!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      @@texacomann I like it! It is a load of synth action for very little cost...

  • @kenfuller9907
    @kenfuller9907 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic, worked perfectly!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Nice one!

    • @kenfuller9907
      @kenfuller9907 2 місяці тому

      Works on the KORG Nu:Tekt too

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      @@kenfuller9907 which is perfect as you only need one power supply.

  • @instantnoodle80
    @instantnoodle80 2 місяці тому

    This is really cool. Thanks for the info

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Anytime my friend.

  • @junkbandman
    @junkbandman 2 місяці тому

    Really useful, great detail on connections using the Pi; got a Pi 3B knocking around somewhere unused so this is worth a try.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      No worries. I’ve got a Pi 3B now as a dedicated USB midi USB host. It works a treat.

  • @rexcellencemagee6729
    @rexcellencemagee6729 2 місяці тому

    This how you deal with a sound you like, I have had a lot of fun with mine, I didn’t go as far as yo did, but I have ordered what I need to make it MIDI, one guy says it’s a toy? I’m having some gum with it, this will be my first time adding MIDI capabilities I’ll have a total of 4, I don’t know if I can turn it 16 voices, going to try. It’s just for fun and a learning experience I’ll be adding a user made osilator, for fun. I’m doing it for any other reason!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Nice one. Glad to hear you are seeing past the diminutive size and getting some interesting stuff out of yours. I have been considering getting a 2nd, but will hold off for the time being as I’ve still got more exploring to do.

  • @mr_floydst
    @mr_floydst 2 місяці тому

    Great work here! (thanks for the shoutout) Reminds me I really need to post an update on how to use a cheap microcontroller to achieve the same thing.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for stopping by Floyd. Love your channel and find it a source of so much useful stuff.

  • @7177YT
    @7177YT 2 місяці тому

    Interesting workaround! Thank you!

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      I thought so. There are other options but this seemed to be more budget friendly.

  • @LaChona420k
    @LaChona420k 2 місяці тому

    dude its a toy.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely. Awesome you can make cool tunes with a toy these days!

    • @Pamberjack_
      @Pamberjack_ 2 місяці тому

      So were the 303 and 606. Cheap plastic boxes. Doesn’t mean they aren’t useful and can’t sound good…

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      100% agree. I drew the same 303 comparison in a previous comment (on another video). I aslo got to thinking about how LFO use a Speak & Spell on their eponymous track, so we are in good company :)

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 2 місяці тому

      Anyone who thinks that way doesn't deserve one anyway.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      @@SpeccyMan 😂😂😂

  • @solartonytony5868
    @solartonytony5868 2 місяці тому

    what version of linux are you running on the pi ?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      It’s the 32bit flavour of Raspbian.

  • @HeberHere
    @HeberHere 2 місяці тому

    so cool

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks dude!

  • @dmitribovski1292
    @dmitribovski1292 2 місяці тому

    Should have used a micro controller.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      I’m sure you are right, but I can only use what I have.

  • @benjarrell1122
    @benjarrell1122 2 місяці тому

    I bought one on a whim and quickly sold it. It is a neat device, but even with workarounds like this, it is almost literally a VST in a box. I could only see myself using it with a Max4 Live programmer/librarian in my DAW, and at that point I might as well just be using a VST anyway.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Fair enough. If there wasn’t an analogue filter then I’d be right there with you. For me, the filter makes the JT-4000 good VFM.

  • @kurtklingklang5918
    @kurtklingklang5918 2 місяці тому

    According to Reddit, the font of all knowledge, when the REC button is flashing, you should be able to hold the PRESET button and press 1 - 4 to change bank, and then enter the two digit location to save it. But as my Pro-800 doesn't arrive until tomorrow, I will have to wait until then to confirm this.

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Nice one. Thanks for the heads up…. BTW the manual is split in a weird way, so there is more detail in it, however not the easiest to read TBH.

    • @TheShaktube
      @TheShaktube Місяць тому

      To save a sound on the Behringer Pro-800, you can copy and paste a preset: Go to Preset Hold down Preset Press 5 to copy Change banks Hold down Preset again Press 6 to paste Press 6 again to confirm

    • @AaronMDunn
      @AaronMDunn 22 дні тому

      @@TheShaktube Thank You Very Much. Great Solution!

  • @tbeardmore1
    @tbeardmore1 2 місяці тому

    it conects to the swing easy enough without all that pie programming business

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Ah cool. I also hear MPC One works without a MIDI Host. Unfortunately I have neither of these. Thanks for letting us know.

    • @longlostrobots8146
      @longlostrobots8146 2 місяці тому

      I tried the KeyStep and it will not work

  • @brimans3092
    @brimans3092 2 місяці тому

    The number of people, purely dawless is minute. Most people who play out live will have a laptop or ipad in the mix BUT.. For the minimal cost to Behringer, they should have put 3.5mm midi ports on it.. And of course they know that this would inspire lots of UA-cam videos on the matter.. Whats the ole saying? Any publicity is.... 😂

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      That’s refreshing to hear… I’ve moved between Dawless and hybrid over the years, but if you read some of the comments on my last video you’d think not having midi in was the living end. There may be some truth in leaving stuff out, either to encourage upsell or discussion.

  • @koncreteto2758
    @koncreteto2758 2 місяці тому

    Cool video, another thing worth mentioning is a few midi merge boxes have a usb midi out now, even some audio interaces have usb midi out now aswell, i have a arturia minifuse4 andnit has 2 ports in the back that can handle midi, audio and memory cards

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      Thanks for adding these points

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      The other option I will try out in the future is using AUM on the iPad Pro I have. This should work DAWLESS, but I felt the Pi was one of the more cost effective options, so decided to plump for a video show casing this in the first instance.

  • @Reticuli
    @Reticuli 2 місяці тому

    Can it process external sound? What kind of output connectors does it have?

    • @3dims
      @3dims 2 місяці тому

      No input for processing I’m afraid. Output is headphones…. Gotta remember the price tag.